Hey guys

hope everyone is okay and nat i hope you feel better soon :p thanks for all the help everyone gave over the two diffrent presentations been relly fun working with you all :D

my noats

Nicks first known animation is the chiken dance from peter gabrials sledge hammer
the video uses stop start animation throughout
held as one of the best music videos of all time
although this was his first publicised animation he had already started on wallace and gromits big day out

Nick created wallace and gromit in collage
Know for their wackey inventions children and adults love wallace and gromit
Many advertisesing companys have used wallace and grommet to market there brands
the show takes many weeks to film
the original clay wallace and gromit were burnt a few years ago

the original creture comforts began in the 80's
the voices are of real people in interviews and the clay animals are based on the interviewees
cretures comforts like wallace and grommit has been used to advertise many products as it is a much loved show

Nick park's first feature film was chiken run wich was relesed in 2000
mel gibson voiced the role of rockey
won 22 awards and nominated for a bafta and an oscor
draws its influence from the great escape
like nick parks other works this film has been seen as a british tresure
the chickens ginger and rocky were named after nick parks real chickens

in 2005 wallace and gromit got thire first feature film curse of the were rabbit
it won an oscar and 30 other awards
the animations were so focused each character had at least 30 diffrent versions of its self to portray diffrent expressions
the film required 2.8 tonnes of plastacence
hailed as one of the best animations of all time


Although celebrity death match is very diffrent from wallace and grommit with heavy play on vilonce many feel that the show would not be soo popular without its wallace and grommit roots
the show took about the same time to film than wallace and gromit

Seth green is a known fan of nick park and even parodyed wallace and grommit in one of his robot chicken sketches
the show differs to nick parks work as they use a mix of action figures and clay and many feel that it is the dawn of a new age in clay mation
nick park has been herd saying that he watches the show from time to time

abbie your work is fine but im sorry i dont have any links sam did most of the original powerpoint see you tomorow hope you have your stuff :)

final presentation

ok guys ive finished it. im really sorry but i dont have time to add anything else right now unless its majorly important or it will be really quick to add like a bullet point etc. can you please check it over. http://www.scribd.com/doc/51932933/Nick-Park thank you :)

Fin!

although it still needs bibliogrphy stuff on but pretty much :) http://www.scribd.com/doc/51914381/Nick-Park

CALLUM AND SAM!!!

please can you give me and links etc from where you got your info from for the bibliography. thank you :)

presentation

Is almost finished just refferincing the images propperly. if you want anythign adding you need to let me know now because i need to sort out what im saying so once ive finished it thats it im not sitting all night and changing it becuase people are giving me info last min. so if you want anything adding can you please tell me before 7pm. i will post the presentation in the next half an hourish.

Claymation- Research Post

A brief timeline before Nick Park

1897

The invention of Plaster-scene: 1897

William Harbutt was the inventor of Plaster-scene in 1897, he ran an art school and intended for this non-drying modelling clay to be used by his students.

1908

The Earliest surviving use of the Clay animation technique is from 1908, A Sculptor's Nightmare, Directed by Wallace McCutcheon. 

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0000756/

                       

Part 01

Part 02

                       

Part 03

1957 - 1968

Clay animation became more of a public interest with The Gumby Show. A series of clay animated characters with a target audience of children. This show was an idea to tell stories incorporating values and learning for children.

Created by Art Clokey.

Figure 1. Gumby-Weight and See 1957

                   

1963

The Creation of Ray Harryhausen's Jason and the Argonauts. 

Figure 2: Ray Harryhausen with film models.

Figure 3: Scan from Ray Harryhausen A Birthday Celebration


Ray Harryhausen's groundbreaking and breathtaking work lives on within generations and continues to inspire others. Such as Nick Park.

List of Illustrations:


Figure 1: Gumby-Weight and See (1957) From: The Gumby Show. On Livejournal
http://community.livejournal.com/daily_cartoon/tag/gumby (Accessed on: 29.03.11)


Figure 2: Ray Harryhausen with Film Models (Date Unknown) On Blogspot
http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjgMp3nO01_0ZcPPbBLpH0pidFLOtdYcfycPGTkq9QLK5Kuizwjzo40dQH4PAcc8MC4KeM46jUWI-m1CshaWvnp7b3Cyk8BAtcSSXmGEKrGN3TmIyDCTJ4UJuyN4tcgoYqsolnSCeCuNkA/s1600/ray-harryhausen_1616704c.jpg&imgrefurl=http://alleynsmedia.blogspot.com/2010/06/ray-harryhausen-interview.html&usg=__W-0sUiauKs3VweAZBzukC5imASk=&h=287&w=460&sz=21&hl=en&start=117&zoom=1&tbnid=8jhsxbx9d6hUKM:&tbnh=137&tbnw=171&ei=mEaTTaCnHIiZ4AbC8O3mDw&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dray%2Bharryhausen%2Bjason%2Band%2Bthe%2Bargonauts%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dsafari%26sa%3DN%26rls%3Den%26biw%3D1439%26bih%3D780%26tbs%3Disch:10%2C2504&um=1&itbs=1&iact=rc&dur=381&oei=Y0aTTbOoAsWy8gO8i-3pAw&page=5&ndsp=28&ved=1t:429,r:14,s:117&tx=113&ty=65&biw=1439&bih=780 (Accessed on: 29.03.11)


Figure 3: Scan from Ray Harryhausen A Birthday Celebration. BAFTA  and BFI Booklet accompanying the event of Ray Harryhausen's 90th Birthday Celebration At BFI Southbank 2010
(Not sure how to reference an image I scanned from a booklet correctly)




Bibliography:


Author & Date unknown. Claymation. http://schools.spsd.sk.ca/mountroyal/hoffman/Animation/Clay/Claymation.html (Accessed on: 29.03.11)


Gumby- Weight and See (1957)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1EBY6dXZso&feature=player_embedded#at=56 (Accessed on: 29.03.11)


The Sculptor's Nightmare Part 01 (1908)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cn0-hyhbJwQ&feature=related

(Accessed on: 29.03.11)


The Sculptor's Nightmare Part 02 (1908) 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bC-IvGKD4VE&feature=related

(Accessed on: 29.03.11)


The Sculptor's Nightmare Part 03 (1908)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZtQEA16DOs&feature=related
(Accessed on: 29.03.11)


IMDb.com. The Sculptor's Nightmare 1908. In: Internet Movie Database.com [Online]
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0000756/ (Accessed on: 29.03.11)


IMDb.com. The Gumby Show. In: Internet Movie Database.com [Online]
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0050022/ (Accessed on: 29.03.11)

This could link to where Nick Park was inspired? 

Group suggestions?

Presentation almost finished.

Ok so this is what i have of the presentation so far :) im doing the introduction so don't worry about that being empty atm. It's the last 3 slides i need to add something on to so if you could give me an idea of some points you would like on there ill put them on. The conclusion i've put a few points about things i think i would be able to bring up and speak a little bit about just the way nick park's work is relivant and how clay animation will be relivant in the future too. If there is anything you think would be good to add to the conclusion just write it down to say. But other than that im pretty happy i have a short clip to show to link with ray harryhausen's work too and i've got a quote on there too :) http://www.scribd.com/doc/51839469/Nick-Park

presentation

ok so i don't know how to convert pdf into power point so im pretty much starting the presentation again so ill add all the info to the slides in the order i think it should go then ill post and see what yous think and i cna change it around and stuff if you want it changing. If jess and nat could get in contact some time soon that would be lovely becuase so far sam and callum have done all the work.

Robot Chicken and Celebrity Death Match

Nick park has also influenced many modern takes on plasticine animation such as Robot Chicken and Celebrity death match.

Robot Chicken

Written by Seth Green and Matthew Senreich and started in 2005. they have taken stop animation modeling to new hights useing a combination of action figures and modles. the show is known for its parodys and funny situations. They have brought out three films based on the starwars trilogies. Taken influence from nick park and even parody wallace and gromit in one episode

Celebrity death match

started in 1998 celebrity death match is a contraversail claymation wretaling show wich overesagerates vilionce and gore. the show shows well known celebritys killing each other for various reasons. like robot chicken they take influence from the way wallace and grommit were produced and i feel that people realte to claymotion shows becuse of wallace and gromit.

hope this is enouf to work with sam if not just message me ill search for more lol :)

meeting

Hi guys sorry i haven't posted on here in a while i wasn't in uni last week so im jsut tryingt o catch myself up with everything thats going on.
Can we have a meeting on monday please and get everything written down. i dont mind putting the presentation together again as long as you dont send me the info last min becuase i really dont want to be sat up all night again refferencing and everything, but yeh if we research the stuff callum and sam have posted on here then on monday bring it all in and we can sit down and do a time line again. it would be good if everyone could make it this time and everyone could bring some research with them so we know what we are doing, without sounding horrible i feel some of us worked a lot harder than others last time when i came to research so it would be nice if everyone could get some research for monday as it is a group thing.
So yeah if we can get some research and bring it monday we can sit do a time line again like last time and sort out whos doing what slide, sound ok ?

Presentation (Unfinished)

Nick Park

Nick Park on King Kong & Ray Harryhausen

“I seemed to have followed exactly the same path as Ray, really, although obviously Ray has put down the foundations - I came a lot later, to a world that was already introduced to the techniques and already pioneered. But the same thing - I have, hearing Ray talk about his experiences of seeing King Kong, I have very strong memories of being a 12-year-old. I was reading Ray's book throughout this week and, already hearing from Ray in earlier meetings, of how you went to see King Kong as a young boy, and those are very vivid memories for me, because, like you, I was obsessed with dinosaurs, and I think I wanted to be a palaeontologist when I grew up, and... it's funny, although many years later, I remember I couldn't wait to get home to see this film that I'd seen trailed on the TV - the magic of seeing dinosaurs living on screen for the first time” Park [2003]

Interviews: Ray Harryhausen & Nick Park, BFI, 2003, [online] Available at: http://www.bfi.org.uk/features/interviews/harryhausen-park.html

Nick Park Influences

Extract From an Interview 

How would you describe your take on storytelling? What sort of things did you look at while growing up that you feel influenced you as a filmmaker?

The Wallace & Gromit movies I made were always referencing other film genres outside of animation, films that I loved all the time. Hitchcock films [and David Lean's] Brief Encounter, and I equally love the work of Chuck Jones, Tex Avery, Tom and Jerry cartoons and Disney films. I grew up on all these films.

I’ve always loved slapstick comedy. I love Buster Keaton and all the Laurel and Hardy films. Maybe that’s where I got Gromit looking at camera and giving us kind of a knowing look to the audience. Maybe from Oliver Hardy, the way he would seem so "give me strength," you know, put upon, looking for sympathy.

I’ve always loved book illustration as well, and collected comic books. In the ’70s and ’80s, I read graphic novels like Hergé’s Adventures of TinTin and the illustrated books of Raymond Briggs. He did a book called Father Christmas and Fungus the Bogeyman, which were popular in the U.K. I love that graphic and chunky style that he had where everything is rendered. He also did The Snowman, which was later turned into animation.

I always loved those 1950s shapes, all post-World War II. I used to watch Ray Harryhausen’s Mother Goose Stories. He did one called Hansel and Gretel (1951) years before. I love that and that kind of holiday animation that was on TV. A lot of ideas I have are inspired by those kind of things, those kinds of aesthetics.

I guess it’s the satisfaction of everything I love coming together, you know, Jules Verne stories, H. G. Wells, TinTin Adventures and Laurel and Hardy comedy kind of all coming together but with the atmosphere of a Hitchcock movie.

Nick Park: Making his Mark in Clay, 2005, Animation Magazine, [online] Avalible at: http://www.animationmagazine.net/people/nick-park-making-his-mark-in-clay/

Forget previous post!!!!

Me and Sam decided on Nick Park the creator of wallace and gromit as i know a lot and could write a presontaion quiclky.

Thank you for reading. :D

Desicions

Hey guys its getting well to close now so I hope nobody minds but I feel we should do edgar wright the director of scottpilgrim.

I would like to show how he was influenced by retro gameing for his film scot pilgrim.

I would then like to show how he used scott pilgrim to influenced the new "Be the controller" age of gameing and how scott pilgrim made people want to live in a ga,me world.

Please comment soon to how you feel about this were running out of time.

Notes From Last Essay (hope this is not cheating)

These are my notes from my Unit 4 Essay about Scott Pilgrim; I figured if we are going to be looking at Edgar Wright these would be useful.

Edgar Wright Here, 2010, Scott Pilgrim vs. the World Q&A moderated by filmmaker Guillermo Del Toro, Available At: http://www.edgarwrighthere.com/scott-pilgrim-vs-the-world-qa-with-edgar-wright-bryan-lee-omalley-and-michael-cera-moderated-by-filmmaker-guillermo-del-toro/

“I think that one thing that is most puzzling is how people confuse effortlessness with ease. One of the hardest things to simulate and craft is something breezy, alive and effortless.”

“One of the things that Edgar did that absolutely destroyed me was transitions, the transitions are incredibly effortless, fluid, smart and where completely appropriate to the movie. He’s not doing it as a show of, but as part of the reason and narrative behind the story.” 

 “There’s a very deliberate use of saturated colours as the story advances, and for good reason.”

“There is a way of reading it, were it could all be happening in Scott’s mind.”

“There are few movies that so clearly evoke what it is to be young. It is a blessing when you find a piece like this that really reminds you of the complex simplicity of being young. Your problems are few but they run very deep, I think the movie evokes that perfectly.”

 [Del Toro, 2010]

“I always wanted to walk this line between fantasy and reality. At the parts were they bust into battle his friends start acting differently, it becomes his version of everyone.”

[Lee O’Malley, 2010]

“Bryan’s note about Scott as a character is that Scott is the hero of a movie inside his own head. In the last book a flashback is revealed to be completely different, Scott is an unreliable narrator. Once I had that information it was a really great way of how to imagine the movie, which is that the movie is playing inside Scott’s head.”

“Bryan’s sense of composition is great he is forcing your eye and telling a story with the negative space. In the movie I tried to give the feeling of reading I saw the transitions as like turning the page. You could see the movie as reading the books as if you are a very fast reader. I also tried to match the artwork not just in terms of composition but to try and do a different shot every edit.”

The angles for each panel in the book changes giving a sense of rhythm. Edgar wanted to do this to create the same sense of rhythm and to keep the movies energy up. 

[Wright, 2010]

The reality of the movie would be a Clerks (1994, Kevin Smith) style indie movie with no crazy fight scenes. But Scott has reinterpreted it inside his own head.    

DVD Documentary Notes

Nira Park Producer

“It’s a true comedy, It’s a comedy but there’s a heightened sense of reality.” [Park, 2010]

“Edgar has cut the movie in his head before he starts shooting, he storyboards the whole movie. Every single frame is storyboarded he knows exactly how his going to put it together.”

Edgar Wright

“It has elements of so many things I am passionate about comedy, action and music.” [Wright 2010]

“In a musical when the emotion gets too much between two characters to be expressed in dialog, they break out in song, and nobody ever comments on it before or after. In the Scott Pilgrim Universe when the emotion gets too much to express in dialog they break out into fight.”  [Wright 2010]

Also:  Are we still meeting tomorrow to discuss this?

Also Also: If so, what time, and where?

Notes form a movie discussion/ Q&A about Scott Pilgrim vs. The World with the director Edgar Wright, Bryan Lee O’Malley the writer of the graphic novels, lead actor Michael Cera and master director Guillermo Del Toro is moderating.

Hey Peoples

Can we get all this done by next sunday gives us a bit of practace time lol can we also agree on our person soon please have a good night :D

Hey guys

Righty ho now that im done and dusted wih puppetry i can focus on this again.

I liked sams idea of Edgar Wright as he has been influenced by retro gameing and old style black english comedy but i cant find a way to link him to the future sam i know yourer a big fan so maby you can help lol.

hope everyone sees this soon :)

Death of Marat Slides.

Slides for Presentation, Death Of Marat, Group Six.

The Time Machine.

Books i used for research were -

Introducing Critical Theory - Stuart Sim -

Borin Van Loon, Published in 2001, Australia.

Beyond Good and Evil, A Prelude to the philosophy of the future. Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche, First Published 1886.

The French Revolution - a very short introduction -

William Doyle.

Oxford University Press, 2001

3rd March Group Presentaion

Time Machine Presentation

newest version of presentation. i also lnow what im adding onto the conclusion.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/49915090

FINALLY got this finished ha,
just need to add on nat's part in the morning and our conclusion points.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/49893601/Final-presentation

Good luck everyone im sure well be fine :D have a good night all.

introduction :)

Hiya this is the introduction,it's not on the actual slides it's what im going to say and it takes about a min to explain it. I should take up about 2 and a bit mins when im done :) http://www.scribd.com/doc/49887173/Introduction

hey abby i hope your okay. Heres a screenshot of my slide im useing open office and that program dosnt like it lol. I hope theire not to bad ill send them to your email too.


image source 1: http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/45901000/jpg/_45901635_gaddafi_ap_1006.jpg&imgrefurl=http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_pictures/8094689.stm&usg=__8s4_tmSMq9Oq6MI2q0VRAfzMeqY=&h=511&w=341&sz=53&hl=en&start=0&sig2=tU_z4krW8O2Spnjbk3j9Ng&zoom=1&tbnid=y7rDnbSBNXGI1M:&tbnh=147&tbnw=102&ei=dWpuTcrTOYuYhQemwtgx&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dcol%2Bgaddafi%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26sa%3DN%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-GB:official%26biw%3D1280%26bih%3D608%26tbs%3Disch:1&um=1&itbs=1&iact=hc&vpx=623&vpy=82&dur=1509&hovh=275&hovw=183&tx=78&ty=133&oei=dWpuTcrTOYuYhQemwtgx&page=1&ndsp=21&ved=1t:429,r:3,s:0

Image source 2: http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.allgov.com/Images/eouploader.b8bf9872-bf68-49bc-84a2-09c1765d5d85.1.data.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.allgov.com/PhotoOfTheDay/The_Death_of_Neda_AghaSoltan&usg=__9r2mHuf4t8b_2gSgdTgDqfgS4VQ=&h=393&w=561&sz=105&hl=en&start=0&sig2=jSWKPq11cNTp6Zv-cS3VsA&zoom=1&tbnid=9ovetM-XGMz-ZM:&tbnh=143&tbnw=191&ei=PWluTbSWA5S0hAeN5_A1&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dneda%2Bagha%2Bsoltan%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26hs%3DmcU%26sa%3DX%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-GB:official%26biw%3D1280%26bih%3D608%26tbs%3Disch:1&um=1&itbs=1&iact=hc&vpx=680&vpy=345&dur=319&hovh=188&hovw=268&tx=89&ty=142&oei=PWluTbSWA5S0hAeN5_A1&page=1&ndsp=18&ved=1t:429,r:15,s:0

thats a direct link

Bad spelling im sorry im not very good at powerpoint ill let you snazz it up a bit lol

Thaks for all the post everyone made this easyer for me :D

Go Group 6!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

This is what i have so far, we can put the bibliography on tomorrow like i said if you all bring the sources you have used and the conclusion too. But i really need you all to send me your parts for the slides ASAP so i can get it all finished. Let me know what you think and if you want anything done differently.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/49860727/Presentation

READ PLEASEE!!

Right guys ,as you all know we need to have a bibliography on our presentation. So it would be really helpfull as i'm going to put the powerpoint together if you could all write down all of the sources you have used to get the information for the presentation down. If we are meeting up tomorrow i guess we could add it on last minute because i wont take long to do. But please can you all try post you part of the presentation no later than 6pm tonight because i will have to put everything on and i don't really want to be sat around waiting for one or two people. Thanks a lot guys :)

sam i think were fine we can talk normaly just insded of saying the french revalution inspired the american we just swap it round and say that the french revalution started with the american then just talk about democracy and that the french decided on sochalism and then that leads nicly onto my point lol

ps do you think my stuff good??

PowerPoint Slide and Notes

This is a bit rubbish at the moment, I’m just not sure were I’m going with this. Any suggestions would be extremely helpful.

The American Revolutionary War

Notes

The French revolution was inspired by the successes of The American Revolution less than a decade before.   

“One reason that this success lead to the French Revolution was that the French middle and lower class saw that it was possible to obtain basic rights and freedoms and to fight against the absolute monarchy.”

During the American Revolution both sides used depictions of martyrs often dying during the heat of battle.

The ideals that inspired the American & French Revolutions lead to a desire for liberty and democracy all over the world.  

@ Abbie- Powerpoint sections, pdf format

The Time Machine Part Outline

Problem!!

Hi guys, I have just read an article that said that the American Revolution inspired the French Revolution not the other way around. This massively contradicts what we are saying in our presentation. I guess I will change my segment to say how the American Revolution inspired the French Revolution. I'm not sure if it would fuck up the rest of the presentation or not?

It’s a good article anyway, if anyone’s looking for a basic explanation for what caused the French Revolution, check it out.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/6061069/American-RevolutionFrench-Revolution-DBQ

Hi,
this is my part of the presentation so far. It's very breif because i've written notes to go along with it i didn't want to put too much on the slides otherwise i wouldnt have anything to say. i will probably add a quote to the third slide to back up what i'm talking about but this is it so far. If you could let me know what you all think that would be great because i can add more if you think it's appropriate. But yeah just let me know what you think.
Cheers :)
http://www.scribd.com/doc/49804403/Death-Of-marat

Presentation

Do you all know how i can post my presentation on here because i really don't know how to.

Hi,
once you've done your slides send them to me at adorable_abbie@hotmail.com
haha i know im lame but it's really old.
but yeah either post them on here or send them to me in a pdf and ill put them all together then i'll post it up on here and we can all have a look see if it flows :)

Write up done. Any changes please feel free to comment :D

Just my noats Abbie ill send you links to pictures I want on my slides if thats okay.

………. This then leads us on to the events in Egypt, Tunisia, Libya and Iran today in the fact that the countries people like the French and Americans before them are overthrowing their undemocratic rulers in hope for a democratic system to replace them.

It can be seen that these courtiers all want a more western theology towards rule unlike the French revolution where socialism was the main figurehead for the revolt countries like Libya seem to adherer to the American revaluations idea of democracy.

Most western powers are now pushing for Libya to become a democracy, Hillary Clinton the Us Secutary of state said that “Libya could become a peaceful democracy or face years of civil war” (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-12611925 - 1/3/2011) we can see a change as well in the way people respond to revolutions comparing this to the English reaction in both the French and American revolutions is quite different. In the case of the French revolution England was rather worried that the revolution would catch on and that the common people would overthrow their governments. This is quite similar to the crisis in North Africa because Egypt’s revolution has taken on a domino effect setting other revolutions of in its wake.

Col gadaffi can be compaered to King george the III on his veiw about people protesting his rule. Col Muammar Gaddafi has quoted "Those inciting are very few in numbers and we have to capture them." (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-12570279 - 1/3/2011) This shows many that Col Gaddafi has lost his grip on the full force of overwhelming support for his resignation. This can be liked to the American Revolution in when King George the III said “Once vigorous measures appear to be the only means left of bringing the Americans to a due submission to the mother country, the colonies will submit.” (http://thinkexist.com/quotes/george_iii/ - 1/3/2011) This goes along the same lines of Col Gaddaffi and many also think that King George was Insane.

The last like I wanted to link the role of martyrs in revalution. In June 2009 an iranian woman called Neda Agha-Soltan went to one of the anti dictatorship protests happening in iran at the time. At one point the car she was in got stuck in a large gruope of people. When Neda go out of the car an member of the iranian security force shot into the crow hitting Neda in the cheast. She died within seconds. As this happened a passer by caught her death on camera and it was circled on the web within a matter of hours and quickly Neda became a martyr for the revalution. Unlike Marat the medium of the martydom is very different with marat it was a painting and with Neda it was a camera and the internet. This shows us that thirere will always be martyrs in history but their martydom becomes more know quicker as technology advances.

Its a little long I cant seem to get it below 3:20 any suggestions for what I can cut I need an outside opinion.

Have a good evening everyone.

Very sorry

i apologise to everyone im an idiot lol i clicked close and some of our work was lost compleatly my fault and im sorry for anyone who has to do more :(

Basic presentation outline

Section 1: Abbie: Into and Marat- explain painting, artist. Who the man in the painting is. The art movement. What the painting is about.

Section 2: Jesca: French Revolution. How Marat was a Martyr. Who, what, why, where.

Section 3: Sam: How the french revolution influenced the american revolution.

Section 4: Nat: End of American revolution and how it brought about democracy.

 Section 5: Callum: Democracy and libya.

Section 6: Group conclusion.

EVERYONE REMEMBER TO WRITE DOWN SOURCES FROM RESEARCH!!!!!!

and quotes.

Hey guys great posts from everyone :)

just wanted to outline the over all theam for our project so we can start fitting everything around it lol

Death of marat
Martyre of the french revalution
Which inspired the american revalution
That brought about democracy to america
Which has now inspired Egypt, Tunisia and Lybia to want democracy

i hope evryones okay with this we can also compair marat and the poor Iranian woman in sams post as well as the art that the times seemed to inspire ie neoclassiclism agenst col gaff's properganda posters.

BBC News Article About the Death of Neda Agha Soltan

Neda Agha Soltan's death during a Tehran street protest, graphically captured on a mobile phone, transformed her into a global symbol of Iranian opposition. But those who knew her say that before Iran's disputed elections in June she had shown little interest in politics.

"She wasn't a political person. She didn't belong to any party or group. She didn't support any faction," her mother, Hajar Rostami Motlagh, told the BBC.

"Every other young Iranian was there [at the protest] - and she was one of them."

Mrs Motlagh said that Neda, 27, had married after leaving high school but she and her husband separated after three years and she had lived with her mother for the last two years of her life.

"Philosophy and theology were her favourite subjects," Mrs Motlagh said. "She was a spiritual person. She believed in God.

"She also loved travelling - she had been to Dubai and Turkey. And she loved Istanbul... she wanted to live there one day. "

Neda was also a gifted musician and singer, her mother said.

She had taken singing lessons for two years and it was with her music teacher that she went to the protest in Tehran on the day she died.

The car they were in became stuck in the crowds and they took to the streets because they were tired and hot, her fiance, Caspian Makan, said.

An Iranian doctor, Arash Hejazi, was standing close to Neda and her teacher when the shot rang out.

"I turned back and I saw blood gushing out of Neda's chest," he said.

"She was in a shocked situation, just looking at her chest. Then she lost her control."

Despite his attempts to save her, Neda died within seconds, her final moments filmed by a passer-by on a mobile phone.

In the background, the doctor can be heard pleading: "Stay with me, Neda."

Neda's music teacher is heard crying in the background as her life ebbs away.

Broadcast on internet

The shocking footage was posted on a video-sharing website and soon the images of Neda's death were being beamed around the world.

Days later, protesters supporting the Iranian opposition in cities around the world held aloft pictures of her and carried banners declaring: "I am Neda."

Her name has since become a rallying cry for Iranian pro-reformist campaigners.

Mrs Motlagh said that Neda had the same ambitions that many other young people have, but in particular she had wanted to become a mother.

"This for me is the most painful thing of all," she said.

She added: "I want... to thank everyone around the world, Iranians and non Iranians, people from every country and culture, people who in their own way, their own tradition, have mourned my child... everyone who lit a candle for her, every musician who wrote songs for her, who wrote poems about her... I want to thank all of them.

"Her death has been so painful - words can never describe my true feelings. But knowing that the world cried for her - that has comforted me.

"I am proud of her. The world sees her as a symbol, and that makes me happy."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8176158.stm

Thought we could link this back to the Death of Marat.  We could look at how revolutions always have martyrs as symbols for their causes. 

Books

Hey guys, i got some books out and both of them are really good.

I got one which is Movements in painting by Patricia Fride-Carrassat and Isabelle Marcade. It has each movement from the time period we are looking at as well as different artists and where they were from.
I also got another book Neoclassicism by David Irwin. It's full of different stuff,not only the artmovement but what was happening at the time and it has a full section of Jacques-Louis David and the painting Death of Marat.
If you get to have a look at them that would be cool but if not i'm going to bring them to our meeting tomorrow. I will try and get some of my notes up that i've taken from these books tonight.

F.Y.I The Painting is Based on an Assassinated Activist, R.I.P x

Jean-Paul Marat was who the painting By J.L Davies is about;

AKA Jean-Paul Mara

Born: 24-May-1743


Birthplace: Boudry, Neuchâtel, Switzerland


Died: 13-Jul-1793


Location of death: Paris, France


Cause of death: Assassination


Remains: Buried, Saint Etienne-du-Mont, Paris, France

Gender: Male


Religion: Protestant


Race or Ethnicity: White


Sexual orientation: Straight


Occupation: Activist, Government, Doctor

Nationality: France


Executive summary: French revolutionary

Romanticism and Cultural Influences.

After looking at what you guys have wrote, it made me think of the romantic and idealistic views of artists as well as french artistic movements and aspects that surround the french revolution, coming from my point of view. i wondered how does Romanticism affect artists around the time of the French Revolution and came across this image that fits well with this era, style and cultural and politic aspects. How does an artists opinions and life style affect their creative works ?

In my opinion works of art were more whimsical, idealistic and representative of the freedom that came from realisation and the revolution itself.

Meeting

2pm Canteen Tuesday 1st March

Does anyone else have an idea in what direction to take this i feel we need to find how the death of marat however indirectly has influenced something more mordern but thats just my idea im open to others :) hope we can meet soon.

Chinese revalution

Series of great political upheavals in China between 1911 and 1949 which eventually led to Communist Party rule and the establishment of the People's Republic of China. In 1912 a nationalist revolt overthrew the imperial Manchu dynasty. Under the leaders Sun Zhong Shan (Sun Yat-sen) (1923–25) and Jiang Jie Shi (Chiang Kai-shek) (1925–49), the Nationalists, or Guomindang, were increasingly challenged by the growing communist movement. The 10,000-km/6,000-mi Long March to the northwest, undertaken by the communists from 1934 to 1935 to escape Guomindang harassment, resulted in the emergence of Mao Zedong as a communist leader. During World War II the various Chinese political groups pooled military resources against the Japanese invaders, but in 1946 the conflict reignited into open civil war. In 1949 the Guomindang were defeated at Nanjing and forced to flee to Taiwan. Communist rule was established in the People's Republic of China under the leadership of Mao Zedong.

First republican government
The Chinese revolution came about with the collapse of the Manchu dynasty, a result of increasing internal disorders, pressure from foreign governments, and the weakness of central government. A nationalist revolt from 1911 to 1912 led to a provisional republican constitution being proclaimed and a government established in Beijing (Peking) headed by Yuan Shihai. The Guomindang were faced with the problems of restoring the authority of central government and meeting the challenges from militaristic factions (led by warlords) and the growing communist movement.

Communists retreat
After 1930 Jiang launched a series of attacks that encircled the communists in southeast China and led to an attempt by communist army commander Chu Teh to break out. The resulting Long March to northwest China, from October 1934 to October 1935, reduced the communists' army from over 100,000 to little more than 8,000, mainly as a result of skirmishes with Jiang's forces and the severity of the conditions. During the march a power struggle developed between Mao Zedong and Jiang Guo T'ao which eventually split the force. Mao's group finally based itself in Yan'an, where it remained throughout the war with the Japanese, forming an uneasy alliance with the nationalists to expel the invaders.

Communist victory
Mao's troops formed the basis of the Red Army that renewed the civil war against the nationalists in 1946 and emerged victorious after defeating them at Huai-Hai and Nanjing in 1949. As a result, communist rule was established in China under Mao Zedong's leadership.

Source:http://www.talktalk.co.uk/reference/encyclopaedia/hutchinson/m0005603.html

an example of the french revalution influencing (how ever small) a mordern event in history.

Source: http://www.rjgeib.com/thoughts/french/french.html

Proberly the most iconic painting of the french revalution very diffrent feel to our painting but i feel that the death of marat has more significance for the revalution.

The french revalution

The French Revolution is one of the most important events in modern history. It was more radical than either the English or American Revolutions, and had a far greater impact on 19th century Europe. The unthinkable fall of the Bourbons resonated throughout Europe, sparking a series of revolutions which rallied behind liberalism and nationalism. The major socialist revolutions of the twentieth century in Russia, China and Cuba were inspired the French example.

I feel that the french revalution is the key to everything it covers two important factors, the change of the past and the influence that change has in more mordern history.

Source:http://www.historywiz.org/frenchrev.htm

Ps can we all meet soon we need to decide everything :)

Paintings

Just a few different artists work as well as jacques-louis david, that are from the neoclassicism genre if you want to have a look.

http://dameboudicca.blogspot.com/2008/11/portrait-of-week-cupid-seller.html

http://www.arthermitage.org/Anton-Raphael-Mengs/Parnassus.html

I also found this wich is pretty much a biography of Jacques-Louis David and it also talks about Neoclassicism.
http://www.metmuseum.org/toah/hd/jldv/hd_jldv.htm

Neoclassicism

hey guys just doing a bit of research and found this website with a breif description of neoclassicism and then a list of artists from the time :)

http://wwar.com/masters/movements/neoclassicism.html

Death of Socrates
Source: smarthistory.org

Another of David's painting in where he replaces a christian saint with a maryter.